Subject: Re: [ecasound] "-ev" vs. ecasignalview
From: Adam Linson (adam_AT_semioweb.com)
Date: Fri Oct 25 2002 - 13:37:40 EEST
thanks for the long reply, very helpful. i will see what i can do with
the python code for my purposes, since from what you're saying, the
error only has to do with the display. so if it were less lines, the
error shouldn't happen (i think...i hope).
i will go check out those other plugin sites, but on first glance, the
plugins you mentioned didn't look very command-line friendly (i.e., they
appeared exclusively window-based). but i definitely dig the concept of
supporting community standards and am willing to give almost anything a
shot -- anything that will compile, that is, hehehe.
by "triggers", i basically meant "dynamic sequencing", for example,
"when n peak-level is reached, switch to input x" -- sounds strange, i
know, but what can i say, i guess i'm just weird.
"eca" is perfectly fine with me...i was actually hoping it was some
far-out Finnish concept! ;-)
p.s. janne, What do you mean? An African or European swallow?
On Fri, 2002-10-25 at 11:39, Kai Vehmanen wrote:
> On 24 Oct 2002, Adam Linson wrote:
> > hi, thanks for the speedy reply. since your answer, i've installed
> > 2.2.0-pre3 and gave your scenario a try. of course, i realize it's a new
> > feature, so i'm not complaining(!), just asking, in case i'm doing
> > something wrong. basically, the "-evp" worked perfectly, exactly as
> > you've described it below, but with "-ev" i get (on RedHat 7.2):
> > Exception! [mv]waddstr() returned ERR
> Yup, ecamonitor can't handle if there's more info than fits
> to one screen. -ev produces many lines of output, so ecamonitor
> can't handle it. This should be quite easy to fix. Ecamonitor is actually
> just a bit over 100 lines of python code (including all network, parsing,
> curses code ;)), so it's more of a demo prototype for the NetECI concept
> than a ready tool.
> But I think the concept is good. Once the protocol-spec is frozen,
> it shouldn't be a big task to write a really usable version of ecamonitor.
> And nothing stops from writing more status apps for NetECI.
> > on a related note, are there any plans for frequency-measurement tools
> > in the same vein as the amplitude measurement ones (like ev/evp)? if
> > not, then how may i suggest this? it could be useful, for example, in
> > manipulating extreme hi's and low's (to save listeners or equipment!).
> Not at the moment, but there's this awesome JACK app:
> ... that you can use with ecasound. You just output audio data
> to a JACK port from ecasound and then you can use freqtweak to both
> analyse and modify the frequency spectrum. You can route the audio back to
> ecasound, to some other app, or to the soundcard.
> Generally speaking, as many of you know, I'm an active member of the
> linux-audio-dev community and have been for many years. I've been
> personally involved in both LADSPA and JACK projects. What this
> means in practise is that instead of extending ecasound in these areas,
> I prefer to make sure ecasound has excellent support LADSPA, JACK
> and other community-wide standards. This has worked well for effects
> (there's no way any single project could develop as many good plugins
> as has been developed for LADSPA). This same thing might be
> happening with JACK. Another good example is Meterbridge:
> ... this doesn't totally replace things like "-ev" and "-evp", but
> nicely extends the scope of things you can do with ecasound.
> Btw; but also, although I like to support these standards, I also
> don't want to make ecasound dependent on any external,
> especially not any bleeding-edge, package.
> > and on an unrelated note, i am writing some code for event-based
> > "triggers", since it is my understanding that there is nothing like this
> > built into ecasound. please correct me if i am wrong about this.
> Hmm, what kinds of triggers (ie. what triggers what :))?
> > as for a guess to what eca stands for, all i could come up with before i
> > asked was either "Ephedrine-Caffeine-Aspirin" (sounds like a potential
> This might bring the "War on drugs" on us,
> > programming recipe), "Electronics Corporation of America" (they did make
> this a lawsuit,
> > tube radios), or "Evangelical Christian Association" (highly unlikely).
> and this an atheist counter-attack, so I guess we better just stick to
> plain 'eca'. :D
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